or modify the share of taxes paid at the upper income level, reduce the tax burden on the middle income level, cut rates across the board, particularly so you can create a more welcoming environment for small businesses, reduce the tax burden on small businesses, which are responsible for a disproportionate percentage of employment in this country, and you can do a lot of this by generating growth, getting rid of deductions, getting rid of a lot of the credits, getting rid of a lot of the loopholes and that is the plan he will put forward to congress. >> here's the thing. dan, here's the thing. nobody disputes that he intends to do some of this. what we don't know is how he intends to do it, and the specifics and until we get that, i think barack obama is perfectly entitled at the next two debates to take him on it, say hang on, you're cutting taxes by $5 trillion but what are you actually going to do to make up the $5 trillion? as stephanie cutter says, at the moment, the american public is just going to have to trust him. now, mitt romney may or may not be the most trustworthy guy when it comes to credits and exemptions. i have no idea.